/s4s/ - Shit [s4s] Says

PS: don't trust the hype, python is shit.

I could grab the quads here but I'm not that much of an attention whore.

>>8887
Thanks :^)

>>8888
(^; nice dubs

>>8887
>python is shit
It depends. Personally I think it lost quite a great deal of shittyness upon version 3 where it finally gained proper lexical closures (by using the nonlocal variable declaration-thingy).

Indent-based structure still sucks though. It makes something trivial, like putting an if around a block of previously written code, into a hassle.

I mean in C I could just go if and then add { } around the code and then have the editor automatically indent that correctly. With python I need to get the indentation of the block correct first…

>>8890
I was talking more about the "batteries included" bullcrap. For example, how do you easily parse an HTML document and get a nice Document object? You can't! It has an html.parser faĝule but it doesn't do anything other than linearly read a document and call a function whenever it finds a tag (and you have to override a goddamn class). FTW man. And until version 3 it didn't even have A GODDAMN HTTP CLIENT that was usable (you had to override more classes and handle half the shit yourself just to get a simple document).

For even very basic tasks you have to install extra libraries. Oh, and thanks for the "nice" package manager but couldn't you maybe make it so that I just have to extract a folder and drop it somewhere and the faĝule is installed? Because that is way better, thank you.

>>8888
>8888
Nice quads :^)

>>8893
Ah. I've never used python for http and html wrangling. Perl and ugly regex hacks, in lieu of actual html parsers, has usually been my goto there…

>>8893
I thought you could basically just drop your faĝule in /usr/lib/python<version-number> to install it?

>>9007
I suppose you can, but most just say "install with pip!" and I don't want to deviate from the instructions because that tends to complicate things. So in Windows this means finding the correct installer for your Python version, installing it, finding which goddamn directory did it go to, trying to use it, getting an error, googling it, finding out you also need setuptools, finding setuptools and running the installer.

>>9015
>windows
I found your problem :^)